Anil Kapoor is responsible for many good things in my career-Satish Kaushik
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Meena Iyer (BOMBAY TIMES; August 31, 2015)
How does one introduce Satish Kaushik? In a career spanning 30 years, he has made a sizeable (pun intended)
contribution to Bollywood, theatre, Indian television and international
cinema as an actor, producer and director. Importantly,
even three decades later, he has an insatiable appetite for his craft. As he gears up for the television sitcom Sumit Sambhal Lega, where he
plays Jasbir
Walia, that will air from tonight on Star Plus, this multi-faceted
personality touches on the high and low points of his life and
career. Excerpts from his interview...
You start a new journey on television tonight as Jasbir Walia...
I've been working continuously for 30 years. 24 has paved the way for finite series on TV becoming popular. This entire year has gone in shooting for Sumit Sambhal Lega. It is the adaptation of the American show Everybody Loves Raymond and I play the role of Frank, Raymond's father, in this case Sumit's father. I've made it more obnoxious, more interesting. It is not the central role but it is a juicy one and has a lot of scope. I'm a lazy man from a Delhi household, who talks in the 'aabe tubhe' language. I'm constantly eating and insulting people! It is a character with a lot of layers and though he seems obnoxious on the face of it, he has an endearing quality about him. I accepted the show because I was happy with the brand. Jeremy Stevens, one of the the writers of the original series came over, we had readings and workshops. It is all so well executed.
Three decades as an actor and you're still as excited about this role...
Acting is therapeutic for me. I have made so many names popular. Whether it is Calendar (Mr India), Pappu Pager (Deewana Mastana), German (Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain), Jumbo (Gharwali Baharwali), Kunj Biharilal (Haseena Maan Jaayegi), Mutthu Swamy (Saajan Chale Sasural) or Airport (Swarg), people on the street address me by all these names. Something tells me Jasbir will also become as popular as the characters I have named. I've done so much in three decades - from acting in films to producing and directing movies, to producing television shows, theatre and now acting on TV. I've also directed commercials. I always wanted to be busy.
When did the acting bug bite?
I stayed at the Naiwala Lane in Karol Bagh, New Delhi. When I was eight, I told my father - my name should come in the newspaper some day. I was the most ignored child in my school till I did a mono-act play on the last day of Std XI. Everyone was very impressed by it. That very moment I became the star of my school. The claps motivated me to take admission in Delhi's Kirori Mal College, which encouraged dramatics. Amitabh Bachchan is from the same college. Professor Frank Thakurdas, a patron of the arts from our college told me, 'Satish, don't do anything else in life after passing out from here. Become an actor'. I thought he was just humouring me, especially because I knew that I lacked good looks. But my professor turned around and told me, 'Never mind your looks. When I see you on stage, you are the ultimate good-looking person for me.' He is the one who put in a word for me at the National School of Drama (NSD) and this changed my life.
You came to Mumbai next?
I did a six-month course at the Film and Television Institute of India (FTII) and then came to Mumbai. After a year at NSD and a six month stint at the FTII, I worked with the Auroras of D'Decor for a year in their textile mill and earned Rs 400 a month. My first day's job at the mill in Vikhroli was to sweep the dust off the yarn bundles. I had been gloating over the reviews that I got for my plays at NSD and thereafter, the praise I received at the FTII and here, I was being made to sweep in a mill! However, since I knew that I had to survive in Mumbai to pursue my ultimate dream of acting, I just continued. I told myself 'if you sweep the dust off these looms well, your path in Mumbai too will be a smooth one'. This positive attitude is what got me going and paid dividends. My boss saw my play Bichchoo at Prithvi and was mighty impressed. When I reported at the mill the next morning, he said to me, 'You're lacking in the looks department, but you're a terrific actor. Whatever you do, do it with passion.' I became Shekhar Kapur's assistant. I waylaid him at the airport and asked him to take me.
Is Shekhar your godfather in Bollywood?
Frankly, I think Javed Akhtar saab is my godfather. My relationship with Shekhar was very fruitful. I assisted him on Masoom and Joshilaay. Here I met Javed saab, Boney Kapoor and Anil Kapoor. Javed saab asked me not to think small ever. I did one scene in Woh 7 Din and I forged a lifetime of friendship with Shekhar, Anil, Boney and of course, Javed saab. Anil is responsible for many good things in my career.
Any more additions on the friends list?
Yes, Anupam Kher and Jayantilal Gada.
Boney entrusted you with with two big films - Prem and Roop Ki Rani Choron Ka Raja (RKRCKR), right?
Yes, RKRCKR was launched as a magnum opus. But both Prem and RKRCKR flopped. That really upset my morale. I then ventured into television with O Maria, Yeh Shaadi Nahin Ho Sakti and Philips Top 10. I was producing four to five programmes on Sony. But my heart was in films. I was down but never out. The big Bollywood directorial break came again with the Anil-Kajol starrer Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain. After that, I never had to look back. I had also become very busy as an actor. I did around 15-16 films with David Dhawan as an actor.
Isn't it true that David actually offered you Raja Babu, the role that Shakti Kapoor later did? Why did you opt out?
David gave me Raja Babu immediately after RKRCKR flopped. At the photoshoot, he wanted me to stand in a striped underwear with a naada hanging down and a Charlie Chaplin moustache. The get-up was very funny but I was nervous, thinking that after such a colossal flop, if I stood in an underwear, people would think I was finished. So, I requested David to give me something else. That's when he offered me Saajan Chale Sasural, where I played a South Indian. I saw this as a tribute to Mehmood, whom I deeply admired and who had played a South Indian in Padosan. It is ironical that both Shakti and I won Filmfare Awards for actors in best comic roles in two consecutive years.
You were fortunate to work with some of the biggest names...
Yes, I worked with Salman Khan (Tere Naam), Anil on several films and Tusshar (Mujhe Kucch Kehna Hai). However, as far as my leading ladies go, I've worked with the most established names including Sridevi, Tabu, Kareena Kapoor Khan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Kajol. I recall I was nervous about working with Kajol in Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain. She was fresh from the success of Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge and I was thinking, 'God, how will I convince her to do my film.' But the moment I met her on her farm in Khandala and she yelled, 'Aye Pappu Pager,' I knew things would be easier. I realised that when you speak to Kajol, you have to be honest. So, I narrated the script to her without mincing the melodrama. Of course, her first reaction was, 'Satish, it is too melodramatic.' But once she was convinced that there was no other way you could approach the script, she cooperated fully.
Heard you told Anupam Kher once that you would attempt suicide. Is this true?
When RKRCKR failed, I was at a hotel in Hyderabad and was so dejected that I was contemplating suicide. I was newly married and my wife Shashi was wondering what she had got into. Anupam called the general manager of the hotel and said 'please save my friend.' Also, a little later I was at a pub in Mumbai where I met Mahesh Bhatt. I was wearing a dejected expression and told him that I was feeling terrible because my film had flopped. He gave me a smack on my face (albeit playfully) and said, 'your film has flopped, you haven't. Treat films as a part of your life, they're not your entire life.' I came home that day and made a life-graph. I told myself that I had had such humble beginnings. God, my friends and colleagues had paved the way for me to become so successful, then how could I feel defeated just because I had suffered one setback? People who were better-looking and better-off than me were still struggling, while I had managed to reach some place. So, I told myself, 'Satish you need a kick on your arse.' And I picked up the pieces and started again.
You also lost your son Kush to an accident...
The biggest tragedy in my life was losing Kush 20 years ago. Shashi and I could not get over this tragedy. The accident shook me up. I was on top of things as far as my career went. I was elated, when at the premiere of RKRCKR, my wife was pregnant with our first child. And then we lost our son. I realised that as far as destiny is concerned, nothing is planned and fixed. This really shook me up. Today, my son, too, would have been around the same age as Anil's son Harsh and perhaps he, too, may have chosen to be a part of Bollywood. Not a single day goes by without remembering him. Three years ago my daughter Vanshika came into our lives. She is the biggest source of joy for us, the antidote to our sadness. She has filled the gap.
International honour came your way with Brick Lane...
I did Brick Lane and believe me, the producers were in a fix initially on whether a comic actor like me could pull it off. But I had the solid background of theatre. Sarah Gavron's Brick Lane and Dev Benegal's Road Movie opened global doors for me. I met Robert De Niro and Martin Scorsese at the Tribeca Film Festival. I won a lot of accolades at the Toronto Festival for Brick Lane. And I had the privilege of meeting Sir Ben Kingsley at Doha. A new phase in my career began as I started hobnobbing with Hollywood stars at international film festivals. In fact, even before I could approach Ben, he turned around and said, 'Am I meeting this great actor from Brick Lane?' He even introduced me to his wife, who is also a famous actor.
On the social front, you have adopted a village in Haryana.
Yes, I have adopted my paternal village Dhanaunda that is in the Mahendragarh district of Haryana. I got a lot of aid from the local government for making pakka streets and even a sports stadium is being constructed there. I also run a NGO called The Roots that holds workshops in girls' schools. The motto is to tell girls to dream big and become achievers in their chosen field. I believe if God has given you enough, you must give back to society.
Are you planning on directing again?
I have directed around 14 movies and filmmaking remains a passion. The script of my next film is almost ready. It is a gritty drama based on a book. However, I will announce the film at a later day. Acting in television, theatre and films has kept me quite occupied. My play Salesman Ramlal, which is an adaptation of Death Of A Salesman, has kept me fully busy. Besides that, I'm currently doing roles in Abhishek Chaubey's Udta Punjab, where I play Shahid Kapoor's uncle and Wedding Pullav. I also have Ritesh Sinha's Promise Dad, that has an international starcast and is expected to release soon.
You start a new journey on television tonight as Jasbir Walia...
I've been working continuously for 30 years. 24 has paved the way for finite series on TV becoming popular. This entire year has gone in shooting for Sumit Sambhal Lega. It is the adaptation of the American show Everybody Loves Raymond and I play the role of Frank, Raymond's father, in this case Sumit's father. I've made it more obnoxious, more interesting. It is not the central role but it is a juicy one and has a lot of scope. I'm a lazy man from a Delhi household, who talks in the 'aabe tubhe' language. I'm constantly eating and insulting people! It is a character with a lot of layers and though he seems obnoxious on the face of it, he has an endearing quality about him. I accepted the show because I was happy with the brand. Jeremy Stevens, one of the the writers of the original series came over, we had readings and workshops. It is all so well executed.
Three decades as an actor and you're still as excited about this role...
Acting is therapeutic for me. I have made so many names popular. Whether it is Calendar (Mr India), Pappu Pager (Deewana Mastana), German (Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain), Jumbo (Gharwali Baharwali), Kunj Biharilal (Haseena Maan Jaayegi), Mutthu Swamy (Saajan Chale Sasural) or Airport (Swarg), people on the street address me by all these names. Something tells me Jasbir will also become as popular as the characters I have named. I've done so much in three decades - from acting in films to producing and directing movies, to producing television shows, theatre and now acting on TV. I've also directed commercials. I always wanted to be busy.
When did the acting bug bite?
I stayed at the Naiwala Lane in Karol Bagh, New Delhi. When I was eight, I told my father - my name should come in the newspaper some day. I was the most ignored child in my school till I did a mono-act play on the last day of Std XI. Everyone was very impressed by it. That very moment I became the star of my school. The claps motivated me to take admission in Delhi's Kirori Mal College, which encouraged dramatics. Amitabh Bachchan is from the same college. Professor Frank Thakurdas, a patron of the arts from our college told me, 'Satish, don't do anything else in life after passing out from here. Become an actor'. I thought he was just humouring me, especially because I knew that I lacked good looks. But my professor turned around and told me, 'Never mind your looks. When I see you on stage, you are the ultimate good-looking person for me.' He is the one who put in a word for me at the National School of Drama (NSD) and this changed my life.
You came to Mumbai next?
I did a six-month course at the Film and Television Institute of India (FTII) and then came to Mumbai. After a year at NSD and a six month stint at the FTII, I worked with the Auroras of D'Decor for a year in their textile mill and earned Rs 400 a month. My first day's job at the mill in Vikhroli was to sweep the dust off the yarn bundles. I had been gloating over the reviews that I got for my plays at NSD and thereafter, the praise I received at the FTII and here, I was being made to sweep in a mill! However, since I knew that I had to survive in Mumbai to pursue my ultimate dream of acting, I just continued. I told myself 'if you sweep the dust off these looms well, your path in Mumbai too will be a smooth one'. This positive attitude is what got me going and paid dividends. My boss saw my play Bichchoo at Prithvi and was mighty impressed. When I reported at the mill the next morning, he said to me, 'You're lacking in the looks department, but you're a terrific actor. Whatever you do, do it with passion.' I became Shekhar Kapur's assistant. I waylaid him at the airport and asked him to take me.
Is Shekhar your godfather in Bollywood?
Frankly, I think Javed Akhtar saab is my godfather. My relationship with Shekhar was very fruitful. I assisted him on Masoom and Joshilaay. Here I met Javed saab, Boney Kapoor and Anil Kapoor. Javed saab asked me not to think small ever. I did one scene in Woh 7 Din and I forged a lifetime of friendship with Shekhar, Anil, Boney and of course, Javed saab. Anil is responsible for many good things in my career.
Any more additions on the friends list?
Yes, Anupam Kher and Jayantilal Gada.
Boney entrusted you with with two big films - Prem and Roop Ki Rani Choron Ka Raja (RKRCKR), right?
Yes, RKRCKR was launched as a magnum opus. But both Prem and RKRCKR flopped. That really upset my morale. I then ventured into television with O Maria, Yeh Shaadi Nahin Ho Sakti and Philips Top 10. I was producing four to five programmes on Sony. But my heart was in films. I was down but never out. The big Bollywood directorial break came again with the Anil-Kajol starrer Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain. After that, I never had to look back. I had also become very busy as an actor. I did around 15-16 films with David Dhawan as an actor.
Isn't it true that David actually offered you Raja Babu, the role that Shakti Kapoor later did? Why did you opt out?
David gave me Raja Babu immediately after RKRCKR flopped. At the photoshoot, he wanted me to stand in a striped underwear with a naada hanging down and a Charlie Chaplin moustache. The get-up was very funny but I was nervous, thinking that after such a colossal flop, if I stood in an underwear, people would think I was finished. So, I requested David to give me something else. That's when he offered me Saajan Chale Sasural, where I played a South Indian. I saw this as a tribute to Mehmood, whom I deeply admired and who had played a South Indian in Padosan. It is ironical that both Shakti and I won Filmfare Awards for actors in best comic roles in two consecutive years.
You were fortunate to work with some of the biggest names...
Yes, I worked with Salman Khan (Tere Naam), Anil on several films and Tusshar (Mujhe Kucch Kehna Hai). However, as far as my leading ladies go, I've worked with the most established names including Sridevi, Tabu, Kareena Kapoor Khan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Kajol. I recall I was nervous about working with Kajol in Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain. She was fresh from the success of Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge and I was thinking, 'God, how will I convince her to do my film.' But the moment I met her on her farm in Khandala and she yelled, 'Aye Pappu Pager,' I knew things would be easier. I realised that when you speak to Kajol, you have to be honest. So, I narrated the script to her without mincing the melodrama. Of course, her first reaction was, 'Satish, it is too melodramatic.' But once she was convinced that there was no other way you could approach the script, she cooperated fully.
Heard you told Anupam Kher once that you would attempt suicide. Is this true?
When RKRCKR failed, I was at a hotel in Hyderabad and was so dejected that I was contemplating suicide. I was newly married and my wife Shashi was wondering what she had got into. Anupam called the general manager of the hotel and said 'please save my friend.' Also, a little later I was at a pub in Mumbai where I met Mahesh Bhatt. I was wearing a dejected expression and told him that I was feeling terrible because my film had flopped. He gave me a smack on my face (albeit playfully) and said, 'your film has flopped, you haven't. Treat films as a part of your life, they're not your entire life.' I came home that day and made a life-graph. I told myself that I had had such humble beginnings. God, my friends and colleagues had paved the way for me to become so successful, then how could I feel defeated just because I had suffered one setback? People who were better-looking and better-off than me were still struggling, while I had managed to reach some place. So, I told myself, 'Satish you need a kick on your arse.' And I picked up the pieces and started again.
You also lost your son Kush to an accident...
The biggest tragedy in my life was losing Kush 20 years ago. Shashi and I could not get over this tragedy. The accident shook me up. I was on top of things as far as my career went. I was elated, when at the premiere of RKRCKR, my wife was pregnant with our first child. And then we lost our son. I realised that as far as destiny is concerned, nothing is planned and fixed. This really shook me up. Today, my son, too, would have been around the same age as Anil's son Harsh and perhaps he, too, may have chosen to be a part of Bollywood. Not a single day goes by without remembering him. Three years ago my daughter Vanshika came into our lives. She is the biggest source of joy for us, the antidote to our sadness. She has filled the gap.
International honour came your way with Brick Lane...
I did Brick Lane and believe me, the producers were in a fix initially on whether a comic actor like me could pull it off. But I had the solid background of theatre. Sarah Gavron's Brick Lane and Dev Benegal's Road Movie opened global doors for me. I met Robert De Niro and Martin Scorsese at the Tribeca Film Festival. I won a lot of accolades at the Toronto Festival for Brick Lane. And I had the privilege of meeting Sir Ben Kingsley at Doha. A new phase in my career began as I started hobnobbing with Hollywood stars at international film festivals. In fact, even before I could approach Ben, he turned around and said, 'Am I meeting this great actor from Brick Lane?' He even introduced me to his wife, who is also a famous actor.
On the social front, you have adopted a village in Haryana.
Yes, I have adopted my paternal village Dhanaunda that is in the Mahendragarh district of Haryana. I got a lot of aid from the local government for making pakka streets and even a sports stadium is being constructed there. I also run a NGO called The Roots that holds workshops in girls' schools. The motto is to tell girls to dream big and become achievers in their chosen field. I believe if God has given you enough, you must give back to society.
Are you planning on directing again?
I have directed around 14 movies and filmmaking remains a passion. The script of my next film is almost ready. It is a gritty drama based on a book. However, I will announce the film at a later day. Acting in television, theatre and films has kept me quite occupied. My play Salesman Ramlal, which is an adaptation of Death Of A Salesman, has kept me fully busy. Besides that, I'm currently doing roles in Abhishek Chaubey's Udta Punjab, where I play Shahid Kapoor's uncle and Wedding Pullav. I also have Ritesh Sinha's Promise Dad, that has an international starcast and is expected to release soon.
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