If you were old enough to watch television in the 1980s, you know Renu Verma. During the pandemic, you met her again. She was the witty, level-headed neighbour from Yeh Jo Hai Zindagi, the 1984 Doordarshan sitcom that found a new audience on OTT. The character became one of Indian television’s most enduring icons, thanks to former Miss India Swaroop Sampat.

Now, after a 25-year break from theatre, Sampat is back on stage opposite Anupam Kher in the musical Jaane Pehchaane Anjaane. We meet at a rehearsal studio where she talks about the lessons she learnt from Shafi Inamdar and Rakesh Bedi, and why she believes no other actress could have achieved what she has outside cinema.

Director Gajendra Ahire first thought of casting Sampat after visiting her home to meet her younger son, Aditya Rawal.

“I was amazed that someone so accomplished was serving us tea so casually,” he recalls. When Anupam Kher decided to adapt Ahire’s Marathi play Shvegyachya Shenga into Hindi, Ahire suggested Sampat for the lead.

The offer left her conflicted. Husband Paresh Rawal warned that theatre demanded too much after such a long gap. Her sons were divided. “Anirudh said, ‘I don’t know if you should do it, but it will be nice if you do.’ Aditya said, ‘Come what may, you have to do it.’ They weren’t much help!” she laughs.

Then Kher sent her a brief voice note: “Aap toh aise na the, Swaroop ji.” She gave in.

The play marks her first stage appearance since Shaadi@Barbaadi.com, in which she starred with Paresh Rawal 25 years ago. Yet theatre was her first home. Her father, Bachu Sampat, was Chief Producer of the Indian National Theatre, and she practically grew up backstage.

“By nine, I had learnt make-up by watching theatre doyenne Sarita Joshi. I also learnt how to change saris in seconds. In this play, I have nine costume changes, and I think of her every night.”

After winning Miss India in 1979, Bollywood came calling. But she turned away from most offers. “The films being made in the 1980s did not match my sensibilities.”

She appeared in Naram Garam and Nakhuda, but it was Yeh Jo Hai Zindagi that made her a household name. Behind the scenes, she says, the cast became family. “Shafi Inamdar and Rakesh Bedi taught this South Bombay girl the choicest Hindi gaalis,” she laughs.

Although she stepped away from the spotlight to focus on family, she never entirely left acting. She later appeared in All The Best, and more recently in Ki & Ka and Uri: The Surgical Strike.

“Now, Aditya Dhar is the kind of director I’d love to work with. I’m also open to OTT if the role and the project excite me,” she says.

Interestingly, some of her most significant work happened far from film sets.

A conversation with Paresh Rawal inspired her to complete her education after dropping out years earlier. She eventually earned a PhD in Education from the University of Worcester on a full scholarship. Her doctoral research, The Role of Drama in Enhancing Life Skills in Children with Disabilities, became the foundation for years of work in education policy and classroom training across India. She taught life skills to children in some of the country’s most remote regions, including Bindevpada, a village whose name translates as “A Place Without God”.

“I am ambitious, and I chose to do what truly made me happy,” she says. “No actress could have done what I’ve done in education.”

The remark is neither boastful nor defensive. It is simply how she measures success.

Moments later, rehearsal calls. Despite nursing an injured foot, Sampat heads upstairs for another run-through. The tour will soon take Jaane Pehchaane Anjaane across the US and Canada. After decades away, the stage once again feels like home.