It's far more elegant to flirt than to say 'Will you sleep with me?'-Suhel Seth
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Priya Gupta (BOMBAY TIMES; September 24, 2015)
Suhel Seth may feel like he
is 21, but in reality, he is 52 years old. He believes in the saying
that a man is only as old as the woman he feels. So when we asked him
how old was the youngest woman he had been with at the age of 52, he
immediately said 22. Having always topped his school and college and
beaten everyone and anyone in any debate he has participated in, having
acted with Mrinal Sen and having done theatre with Utpal Dutt, he may be
anal and arrogant, but he is also brutally honest and warm. He is always
prepared and impatient with imperfection, but has all the patience when
it comes to his parents.Ahead of his role modelled on tycoon Vijay
Mallya in Madhur Bhandarkar's Calendar Girls, he talks to Bombay Times
about his proud Kolkata roots, Mallya's big heart and why he considers
flirting as intelligent. Excerpts.
Talk about your background?
While I am a Punjabi, I have lived in Calcutta till the age of 28 and everyone says that I am more Bengali than most Bengalis. My dad had a factory of chemicals, which then went kaput due to unions and strikes and the naxalite movement. And that's when I decided that I would never get into business and would become a professional instead. As a professional, you have the right to abuse, you can be squeaky clean and you don't have to take nonsense from an excise inspector who is a jerk. I started Equus Advertising Agency with my brother in 2006. But I then realised that advertising had unintelligent people, brand managers who had no clue, who had never gone to the field but would sit in AC offices and guide the destiny of brands without having the feel of consumer insights. So, I got into high-end consulting and now advise Chairmen and CEOs on branding and marketing. I charge a bomb and have great relationships with my clients and while I have never made clients out of friends, I have always made friends out of clients. I am also a great believer in the family.
Talk about your parents?
I was devastated when I lost my father this year. I used to live with my parents and then they used to live with me, so we have never lived apart. We are not birds that we leave the nest and go away. If I am in town, there is never a meal that I will not have with them. Every day I eat my lunch with my mom. And that's the Calcutta upbringing. I love my parents the most in the world and feel that the only two people who love you unconditionally are your parents and your dogs.
Some people call you obnoxious and arrogant. What are you like in reality?
We want a level of political correctness and conformity and are willing to sacrifice our own self-esteem just to be popular. Churchill said that the only reason you need to be popular is if you have a wife and since I have none, I don't need to be. I am straight, blunt, even rude at times. I can't suffer fools as that is a congenital disease. I am extremely committed to philanthropy and have had all my staff work for me for no less than 23 years.
What does your mother like the most about you?
That I will always be there. But she doesn't like the fact that I am always rude, though not to her ever. She is always worried that someone would kill me, given my brutal honesty. I have never ever had an agenda.
Were you ever married?
I was married from 1989 to 1993 to a lovely person, Sandhya. And the reason we grew apart was that I wanted kids and she didn't want as she was career-driven. So, the only regret I have in life is not having kids.
You are full of warmth. Who do you share it with?
There is a particular concentric circle within me that no one will penetrate. It's a defence mechanism as I don't want to be hurt. I have always believed that money is transactional. I started my life on a motorcycle. But I grew and made everything on my own. Two weeks ago, I boarded a minibus from Taj Bengal in Kolkata to Victoria Station, as I didn't want to go all the way around. For me, the journey is not important, the destination is.
Talk about your role in Madhur Bhandarkar's Calendar Girls?
I like Madhur's films as they are real and talk about issues that we are in denial of all the time. He told me I am doing Calendar Girls and want you to play Vijay Mallya. Vijay Mallya, I have been advising for a long time and he is also a pal of mine. I told Madhur, 'I am doing Calendar Girls, but I will play Suhel Seth.' If I am playing Vijay Mallya, I am playing a parody. I want to do a character based on the person Mallya is, but not play him, which means being an owner of a company that invests in a calendar every year, who uses that calendar for social appeasement and makes a song and dance about it, as it is connected to his brand. It's an interesting character and when you see the film, you will know that it is not Mallya.
What is Vijay Mallya like?
He is one of my dearest friends and is one of the nicest and the most large-hearted human beings you will ever meet. He is a very poor judge of character and his courtiers, and for a long time, he relied on his yes-men, but intrinsically, he is a good human being. I have never stayed on his yacht or taken his hospitality or flown his airline, but whether he goes to jail or not, the courts will decide, but let failure not detract from someone's past of successes. In our country, we become absolutely vicious when someone fails and that I can't understand. By the way, he is so cool that he had actually told Madhur, 'Why the hell didn't you cast me?' He recently met me in London and said, 'I hope you're playing me well?' I said, 'I am not playing you.' Every business is allowed to fail but the emotional quotient we carry in India, is far more regressive. It's very easy to throw stones at a man who is down and out, but difficult to give him the opportunity perhaps to rise like a phoenix. He may or may not. But unlike the US who sees failure as an opportunity to rise again, in India, we see failure as an opportunity to castigate the person further.
You seem to be a loyal person.
Yes, I attach a huge premium to loyalty and also to how well you sleep at night. I believe in Munshi Premchand's story of Ashwathama. There was this priest who had the most-prized stallion in the village. Every day he would ride his horse, everyone would say what a horse and he would feel very good. But at night, he would worry about the horse and how he would feed it. One evening as he was riding his horse, one hunchback beggar asked him for alms. The priest got off the horse to give him money, just when the beggar pushed the priest and stole the horse. So, the priest went back walking to his house and for the first time, slept well. But he woke up in the middle of the night worried. He went back to the beggar's house and said, 'I will gift you this horse publicly in the chowk.' The beggar said, 'I thought you would report it to the police.' He said, 'No. But if I don't do that, people will lose faith in beggars in the future and will not give them anything.' So he gave the horse to him in front of everyone at the chowk to reinstate faith in humanity, went back home and finally slept well. That is also from where we got the famous saying, 'Ghode bechke so raha hai.' I believe that no matter what you do, if you harm someone, you cannot sleep well. I have never ever uttered a lie in my life.
Are you a flirt?
I don't think so and I hope I am not, although flirting is very intelligent and cerebral. It's far more elegant to flirt than to say 'Will you sleep with me?'
Talk about your background?
While I am a Punjabi, I have lived in Calcutta till the age of 28 and everyone says that I am more Bengali than most Bengalis. My dad had a factory of chemicals, which then went kaput due to unions and strikes and the naxalite movement. And that's when I decided that I would never get into business and would become a professional instead. As a professional, you have the right to abuse, you can be squeaky clean and you don't have to take nonsense from an excise inspector who is a jerk. I started Equus Advertising Agency with my brother in 2006. But I then realised that advertising had unintelligent people, brand managers who had no clue, who had never gone to the field but would sit in AC offices and guide the destiny of brands without having the feel of consumer insights. So, I got into high-end consulting and now advise Chairmen and CEOs on branding and marketing. I charge a bomb and have great relationships with my clients and while I have never made clients out of friends, I have always made friends out of clients. I am also a great believer in the family.
Talk about your parents?
I was devastated when I lost my father this year. I used to live with my parents and then they used to live with me, so we have never lived apart. We are not birds that we leave the nest and go away. If I am in town, there is never a meal that I will not have with them. Every day I eat my lunch with my mom. And that's the Calcutta upbringing. I love my parents the most in the world and feel that the only two people who love you unconditionally are your parents and your dogs.
Some people call you obnoxious and arrogant. What are you like in reality?
We want a level of political correctness and conformity and are willing to sacrifice our own self-esteem just to be popular. Churchill said that the only reason you need to be popular is if you have a wife and since I have none, I don't need to be. I am straight, blunt, even rude at times. I can't suffer fools as that is a congenital disease. I am extremely committed to philanthropy and have had all my staff work for me for no less than 23 years.
What does your mother like the most about you?
That I will always be there. But she doesn't like the fact that I am always rude, though not to her ever. She is always worried that someone would kill me, given my brutal honesty. I have never ever had an agenda.
Were you ever married?
I was married from 1989 to 1993 to a lovely person, Sandhya. And the reason we grew apart was that I wanted kids and she didn't want as she was career-driven. So, the only regret I have in life is not having kids.
You are full of warmth. Who do you share it with?
There is a particular concentric circle within me that no one will penetrate. It's a defence mechanism as I don't want to be hurt. I have always believed that money is transactional. I started my life on a motorcycle. But I grew and made everything on my own. Two weeks ago, I boarded a minibus from Taj Bengal in Kolkata to Victoria Station, as I didn't want to go all the way around. For me, the journey is not important, the destination is.
Talk about your role in Madhur Bhandarkar's Calendar Girls?
I like Madhur's films as they are real and talk about issues that we are in denial of all the time. He told me I am doing Calendar Girls and want you to play Vijay Mallya. Vijay Mallya, I have been advising for a long time and he is also a pal of mine. I told Madhur, 'I am doing Calendar Girls, but I will play Suhel Seth.' If I am playing Vijay Mallya, I am playing a parody. I want to do a character based on the person Mallya is, but not play him, which means being an owner of a company that invests in a calendar every year, who uses that calendar for social appeasement and makes a song and dance about it, as it is connected to his brand. It's an interesting character and when you see the film, you will know that it is not Mallya.
What is Vijay Mallya like?
He is one of my dearest friends and is one of the nicest and the most large-hearted human beings you will ever meet. He is a very poor judge of character and his courtiers, and for a long time, he relied on his yes-men, but intrinsically, he is a good human being. I have never stayed on his yacht or taken his hospitality or flown his airline, but whether he goes to jail or not, the courts will decide, but let failure not detract from someone's past of successes. In our country, we become absolutely vicious when someone fails and that I can't understand. By the way, he is so cool that he had actually told Madhur, 'Why the hell didn't you cast me?' He recently met me in London and said, 'I hope you're playing me well?' I said, 'I am not playing you.' Every business is allowed to fail but the emotional quotient we carry in India, is far more regressive. It's very easy to throw stones at a man who is down and out, but difficult to give him the opportunity perhaps to rise like a phoenix. He may or may not. But unlike the US who sees failure as an opportunity to rise again, in India, we see failure as an opportunity to castigate the person further.
You seem to be a loyal person.
Yes, I attach a huge premium to loyalty and also to how well you sleep at night. I believe in Munshi Premchand's story of Ashwathama. There was this priest who had the most-prized stallion in the village. Every day he would ride his horse, everyone would say what a horse and he would feel very good. But at night, he would worry about the horse and how he would feed it. One evening as he was riding his horse, one hunchback beggar asked him for alms. The priest got off the horse to give him money, just when the beggar pushed the priest and stole the horse. So, the priest went back walking to his house and for the first time, slept well. But he woke up in the middle of the night worried. He went back to the beggar's house and said, 'I will gift you this horse publicly in the chowk.' The beggar said, 'I thought you would report it to the police.' He said, 'No. But if I don't do that, people will lose faith in beggars in the future and will not give them anything.' So he gave the horse to him in front of everyone at the chowk to reinstate faith in humanity, went back home and finally slept well. That is also from where we got the famous saying, 'Ghode bechke so raha hai.' I believe that no matter what you do, if you harm someone, you cannot sleep well. I have never ever uttered a lie in my life.
Are you a flirt?
I don't think so and I hope I am not, although flirting is very intelligent and cerebral. It's far more elegant to flirt than to say 'Will you sleep with me?'
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