With the new Marvel movie Eternals, it’s evident that representation and diversity are not mere stray conversations in the movie business. It’s showing on the screens and behind the camera. That’s the thought with which we start our early morning chat with Kumail Nanjiani and Lauren Ridloff, who play superheroes alongside Salma Hayek, Angelina Jolie, Richard Madden and Gemma Chan in Oscar-winning director Chloe Zhao’s film. This might be a heavy-duty conversation for a 5 am chat, but both are only happy to indulge, having fought the good fight.

“We haven’t seen superheroes who look like us, sound like us, or have names like ours. I am thrilled to be part of a change that ideally should have happened a long time ago,” says Nanjiani of The Big Sick (2017) fame.

Ridloff echoes his sentiments as she says, “There are so many firsts in Eternals. I see the importance of that even before the film has been released. The representation will directly impact so many different communities worldwide.”

The Pakistani-American actor made a statement about his South Asian identity as he wore a purple-and-gold sherwani, made by a Karachi-based designer, at the film’s premiere. “I just wanted to show how beautiful Pakistani clothes can be. When I got the movie, I knew what I would be wearing at the première. I called my mom to get the name of a designer in Karachi. We contacted them, and they were kind to hand-make it, keeping in mind my specifications and the colours I wanted,” says Nanjiani.

For Ridloff, the victory is beyond that of cultural identity. It’s about giving screen presence to the deaf community that is often not allowed equal opportunities. Speaking to us in American Sign Language, as her translator communicates to us, she says, “This story shows what we refer to as ‘deaf gain’ in the deaf community. It means deafness is specifically beneficial to you. For instance, imagine you are in a plane and a baby is crying next to you. I can sleep in peace; that’s no problem. In this movie, we show several instances on what deaf gain is for the community at large.”