Showing posts with label Kal Penn interview. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kal Penn interview. Show all posts
Taarak Mehta ka Ooltah Chashmah, Saath Nibhaana Saathiya helped me with my Hindi-Kal Penn
8:33 AM
Posted by Fenil Seta
Vinay MR Mishra (BOMBAY TIMES; May 18, 2025)
Kal Penn, known for his roles in House and the Harold & Kumar series, was recently in Mumbai in the first week of April. “I was hosting a gala this time, but I stayed on for a few days for meetings, see some family, and because I love Mumbai so much. So as much as I can stay, I always like to,” he says
For an exclusive shoot with Bombay Times, Penn takes a stroll along the iconic Juhu beach, eats Pani Puri and even relishes a nariyal pani. "I will have to warn my mum that the pani puri was just for the pictures," he quips.
During his stroll, he shares his ambitions to deepen his connection with the Indian entertainment industry - which comprises of securing local representation and pursuing OCI (Overseas Citizenship of India) status. Read the excerpts as followed...
'I would love to do a Bollywood film'
Mumbai isn't a new city for Penn; in fact, it's a place where he's spent his summer vacations as a kid, zipping between Dadar and Juhu. This familiarity might explain why he's particularly impressed by the city's latest infrastructure - the coastal road bridge, which has slashed travel time between the suburbs and South Bombay. "The coastal road is actually amazing. The fact that you can get to South Bombay that much quicker is amazing. I live in New York, so I'm no stranger to congestion, traffic, construction, et cetera. But every time I come here, I feel like there's more and more infrastructure that has been built,” he shares.
He adds, "I just always love coming and working in Mumbai. With so many of the OTT shows and there's just so much diversity of content here and I'd love to come back to work. I would love to do a huge Bollywood film or an OTT show."
'I have not been offered a Hindi film yet'
Penn doesn't mince his words stating that he wants to do a Hindi film. And his choices are as quintessential as it can be for an NRI. “Rocky Aur Rani Kii Prem Kahaani,” he states when asked what kind of Hindi film he would like to work in. “I don't think I've been offered a Hindi film yet. So, I feel this is an amazing time to explore that,” he adds.
'TMKOC and Saath Nibhaana Saathiya helped me with my Hindi'
As Penn talks about Hindi cinema, it is important to mention, how during his last visit to India in November last year, the actor visited the sets of popular Hindi TV show, Taarak Mehta ka Ooltah Chashmah. Penn is self admittedly a fan of the show.
“So, I'm fluent in Gujarati and English. But I had to learn Hindi because I didn't grow up speaking (Hindi). And one of the ways I think a lot of people learn a language is through movies and TV. So, the two shows that I watched a lot to better my Hindi were both very watchable, very meme heavy, you can't scroll insta without seeing memes from either their show. They are Taarak Mehta ka Ooltah Chashmah and Saath Nibhaana Saathiya.”
'Back in the day, South Asian community wasn't huge in the West'
The West has seen an influx of multiple South Asian actors including Bollywood star Priyanka Chopra Jonas entering the industry. Penn who could easily be one of the early ones to make a striking impact in the Hollywood entertainment industry feels great about.
“Back in the day when I was starting out my career, it wasn't a huge community, but there were talented, trained Indian American actors who had gone to theater school, film school. And when I would audition for projects in the late 90s, early 2000s – even if they were specifically Indian American or specifically Indian characters – there were still white actors who would audition for those roles, and they would just put makeup on them if they got the job. So, it just makes me happy, how far we have come,” he shares.
Talking further, "Art is constantly in flux and updating. There are these super talented producers and content creators, whether it's Mindy (Kaling, creator) or Priyanka (Chopra Jonas, actor) and all the stuff that they're doing. You have people like me wanting to come and sell shows here and work here (in India). Lines and categories are blurred, both from the sake of content creators and also for audiences because I think they're able to enjoy projects that weren't offered to us 10 or 15 years ago.”
'If an audience sensibility has changed, I would want to update that to make sure an audience laughs'
Penn, who also does stand-up comedy wishes to explore that in India. However, with the ongoing censorship over standup comedy in the country, Penn isn’t dithered.
“As an American actor and a comic, I just need to be mindful of my views. Somethings might be different back at home or last year, but it may be different now because laws and the sensibilities are different. Back at home, I always get this question, ‘Are you upset that you could never make a movie like Harold and Kumar today? You could never make the jokes you made 20 years ago?’ I always found them strange because why would I want to make the jokes I made 20 years ago? I've made those jokes. That's a barometer of comedy that's changed. If an audience sensibility has changed, I would want to update that to make sure an audience laughs. It is different there. As an American, my view is if I don't like something that someone's saying, and that happens often because comedy and art are always subjective, I personally, don't get worked up over it. I would just change the channel because I'm confident in my viewing habits. I would defend somebody's right to say whatever they want to say, whether I agree with it or not. That's the vibrancy of what we offer as artists. Comedy is subjective," he explains, and adds, "I'm mindful of wanting to learn the lay of the land and learn what are the benchmarks? What are the parameters? What's allowed, what's not allowed? I had a couple standup comedy friends here, who explained to me that technically, I cannot use cuss words on stage. That's not something that I would have known, as an American
'If my presence makes somebody feel less invisible, more empowered, that is wonderful'
Penn’s partner Josh (his last name is not in the public domain yet) didn’t accompany the actor on his trip to the country. “He wanted to come. He's part of a friend's wedding. So couldn't make it.”
Penn came out earlier in 2021 and admits “people have been very kind” to his coming out. “Everybody figures themselves out at different times. There's no timeline for it. There are some people who figure themselves out at seven, and for other people, I have heard stories and interacted with people who in their 70s have figured themselves out. I don't live in a vacuum. I am very well aware of how and why representation matters. If my presence makes somebody feel less invisible, more empowered, that is wonderful. I didn't necessarily have that.”
Ask him if there is going to be a wedding, and Penn quickly quips, “Did my mom tell you to ask that? We've been engaged for seven years. So, we need to get it together.”
Ask Kal if there is going to be a fourth part of Harold & Kumar: “I would love to make a fourth movie. We had three movies. Thanks to all the fans. We would all love to make a fourth one. There's nothing on the books right now. We are trying to figure. I love that character so much. He's cooler than I will ever be in real life. I'd love to do it."
When Kal Penn made MILF jokes in the White House, and other funny stories
8:11 AM
Posted by Fenil Seta
When Kal Penn, born Kalpen Modi, decided to split his first name and add an extra ‘n’, it wasn’t an actor’s obsession with numerology but a brown person in America taking a subtle jab at Hollywood’s fixation with hokey accents and turbans. “I joke that the ‘n’ stands for ‘not going to play a stereotypical cab driver.” Frank and refreshingly free of movie star airs, the 44-year-old Indian American actor spoke to Mohua Das about some honest and wildly funny stories that have gone into the making of his memoir, You Can’t Be Serious
Mohua Das (THE TIMES OF INDIA; January 2, 2022)
The book is loaded with funny footnotes. Did it occur to you that nobody actually reads footnotes?
Yes, it did occur to me! A lot of comedic nuggets are in the footnotes and if you ignore them you won’t get all the jokes. So, there’s just one part in the book that my parents had a problem with. It was a joke that I made in a footnote about a close cousin. We’ve been playing pranks on each other for years. I decided to tell people in the book that he got gonorrhea (grins) and in the footnote I say, he certainly didn’t. But then, nobody reads footnotes and I’ve won the prank contest now!
Be it the kid in kindergarten who called you the N-word or aunties who rolled their eyes when you told them that you were going to arts school — if you could have a conversation with them now, what would you tell them?
I guess everything in in the book! (laughs) Much of what kids see and hear comes from some of the things they’re exposed to on TV and the lack thereof. The only exposure they had to anyone who looked like me was Apu from The Simpsons or people from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Much has changed since then so I don’t think I have to go back and say anything to them. They have TV! As for the aunties. . . I can’t imagine what it’s like to move halfway around the world, away from your family in your 20s at a time when you couldn’t even make a phone call. I feel silly that I never considered that when I was growing up. So, aunties and uncles in a place like America where your parents are immigrants are a support network because ten people are there to cheer you on. On the downside, you have ten people trying to give you advice!
As a brown actor in America, race and identity issues lie at the heart of your book… A lot of stories especially earlier in my career are about race and misogyny at the movie studio but then I put that in the context of today and how wonderful it is to see how things have progressed.
I couldn’t have dreamt of turning on the TV 15 years ago and seeing the types of projects out there today — Mindy Kaling has three shows, Hasan Minhaj is sold out, there are so many sketch comedy artistes who are all South Asians or desis. It all comes down to the fact that audiences want content that is diverse, authentic, slice of life and get to meet characters that they’re either meeting or not meeting in real life.
You put your acting career on hold to work for the Barack Obama administration for a year and then extended it. Why was that?
My commitment was for a year but in the first year I realised that the government moves very slowly in a democracy. The things that I was working on — the Affordable Care Act, repeal of the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell act — I wanted to see them through and so I extended for a second year. I also got appointed to the president’s committee on the arts and humanities and was able to work on arts education and cultural diplomacy.
What do you miss about working at the White House?
On a serious side, you miss the opportunity to do really good work for people and being humbled every day that you walk into that building. On the flip side, I had to police my overly creative brain. Like, in my second week, I got looped into an email from the President’s National Security Council. The document said, ‘Kal you need to know about the Moro Islamic Liberation Front’ acronymed MILF. How MILF is highly dangerous and MILF recruits young men! Laughing my butt out in the office I hit reply without thinking and said, ‘Their main terror group is the MILF?’ Nobody replied to that email until about an hour later a senior bureaucrat wrote back, ‘Looks like Kal is in the House!’ (Laughs) It reminded me that there’s a time to be serious and a time to be funny and I loved finding that balance.
Your coming out is not something you dwell much on in the book. Why is that?
I didn’t think it was the most interesting chapter. It was too easy to write. The harder stuff to write was about the racist directors and the rage I had while working for them or helping Obama — the first sitting president — plan the first-ever Diwali. There are lots of stories about me that people didn’t know. Like how my grandparents marching with Mahatma Gandhi is tied to my public service at the White House…these are the stories that I felt would resonate.
I would not say the president's DDLJ line was my idea. It was his idea-Kal Penn
8:04 AM
Posted by Fenil Seta
Kal Penn won't tell if using SRK's line in Obama's Delhi town hall speech was his idea. What he will tell is that he's loving how Indian-origin actors Aziz, Mindy, PC - are crushing it in Hollywood
Aarushi Nigam (BOMBAY TIMES; May 13, 2016)
When Hollywood actor Kal
Penn came to Delhi, the two ques tions he fielded the most were 'When
are you doing Harold & Kumar 4?' and what he thought of the US
presidential race, especially Donald Trump's ascent. That a crazy stoner
film and the election were on the same platform for the press didn't
strike anyone as odd (maybe because, well, they're not that different?).
But actually, because he's juggled both - his most-loved movie role and
his most significant real-life role quite comfortably. He's worked
full time for the Obama administration for two-and-a-half years, gone
back to acting, returned to the White House, and then taken turns with
each. Questions about being an Indian-American in Hollywood took second
place as BT quizzed him about accompanying Obama to India on his visit
last year, and about that line yes, Obama's “Senorita, bade bade
deshon mein...“ at his town hall address at Siri Fort. Was including the
dialogue that had Twitter swooning, his idea? Read on!
Most of the Indian press realised you were in Obama's team during his 2015 visit only after you left, from your tweets. Why did you keep such a low profile?
I didn't! I tweeted at like four o'clock in the morning when we were getting on Air Force One, at Andrews Air Force base right outside of DC. I tweeted a picture of the plane and I wrote, 'Honoured to be accompanying President Obama on this historic trip.' I didn't realise till after that people didn't think that it was happening in real time. Also, I'm sorry, you have President Obama and Prime Minister Modi - that's what the focus should be on. And when we were gone, people must have been like, 'Oh yeah, there were other people too'.
When it was part of your job to brief President Obama, anything interesting you informed him about?
One of the things I remember briefing the president on was Diwali. He was the first US president to celebrate Diwali in person at the White House. And that was his choice. He'd celebrated it before and he has friends who celebrated it from the time he was a kid, so none of it was news to him. But it was interesting because he wanted to make sure there was a cross-section of the community there. Not just wealthy Indian doctors and CEOs, but people who work with battered-women shelters, and the taxi workers' alliance and folks like that also. So, having a chance to sit down with him after we've put the invite list together and share who's there and what the ceremony would be like, was really cool. And he knew most of it already.
Obama's 'senorita' line in Delhi where did that come from? Whose idea was it?
We may have talked about it a little bit (winks)!
Was that your idea?
We mayyy have talked about it a bit.
So it was your idea?
It was a group effort. It was a group effort!
Yeah it was your idea...
Well no, I think one of the things we wanted to do was... film is such a huge, iconic part of Indian culture, and the president is a huge arts and culture fan. And he's a huge movie buff. Really, if you ask him a whole bunch of different things, from art films to dumb comedies to action movies, he watches a lot of them. So I think he was looking for that connection. Particularly as that event was a people event. He wanted something that was authentic and would show a love for the arts, and that people-to-people diplomacy ... so I would not say it was my idea, it was the president's idea!
Your 'Main hoon Don (ald Trump)' dubsmash with Trump's face on yours, saying 'Don ka intezaar toh gyarah mulkon ki police kar rahi hai'... why?!
I just (laughs)... I don't know! I saw that it was on dubsmash and I was like, this seems like the most ridiculous thing to be able to do. And that's when I still thought it was funny. Now the Trump rhetoric is getting a little scary.
You've been called the most famous Indian-American actor in the world at one point. The last few years have seen pretty major strides for so many actors of Indian descent - Aziz Ansari, Dev Patel... Do you have any favourites?
I think they're all great. This is what I love about the community there... that it's always existed. I mean, there are tons of very, very talented actors of Indian-American descent who do regional theatre, who are writers, who do TV here and there. So there's really no shortage of talent. And I love that there are so many actors who're having opportunities now that weren't there before. If you just look at Mindy Kaling, and the show that she's created, it's phenomenal, right? It was on the big network before, now it's on a digital platform. I think that also says a lot about how much the industry is changing. Obviously, Aziz is just crushing it. It's amazing, I love Master Of None. Two episodes are my favourites - the one about his parents, and then one about auditions and what it's like being an Indian-American actor. It's really part of great TV, period. It's really well done. And then even the big networks I'm doing a show for ABC this fall called Designated Survivor, and they've got quite a bit of diversity on their network as a whole. And Quantico is on ABC, so they've also got Priyanka on. (She's great, she's phenomenal.) So, I think just in the last ten years, the way that American TV has changed, it's much more inclusive. I think it's because audiences want the types of stories and characters that they haven't observed or seen before.
How did the auditions episode resonate with you, given your own experiences with bad auditions, where you've been told to fake an Indian accent or a south Indian accent?
What I like about those episodes on Master Of None, particularly the parents episode, is when I hear people talking about it, they seem to talk about it in a similar way to The Namesake. Which is to say, you have a race-cultural specificity if you're south Indian, or a Bengali, whether it's Master Of None or The Namesake. So there is an authentic cultural specificity, but most audiences identify with it more universally. So you don't have to be of that background, you don't even have to be Indian-American to enjoy both of those. And that's what's really remarkable, that they're both only-American stories. A lot of people can relate to them, whether they have recent immigrants in their family or not. And as far as his interpretation of what it's like going out on auditions it's pretty accurate. Yeah, I don't know what to say, I'm certainly not gonna defend a casting director who behaves that way. You encounter that very, very regularly, unfortunately. But like I said, it's changed a lot in the last ten years and I'm hoping it continues to change.
Most of the Indian press realised you were in Obama's team during his 2015 visit only after you left, from your tweets. Why did you keep such a low profile?
I didn't! I tweeted at like four o'clock in the morning when we were getting on Air Force One, at Andrews Air Force base right outside of DC. I tweeted a picture of the plane and I wrote, 'Honoured to be accompanying President Obama on this historic trip.' I didn't realise till after that people didn't think that it was happening in real time. Also, I'm sorry, you have President Obama and Prime Minister Modi - that's what the focus should be on. And when we were gone, people must have been like, 'Oh yeah, there were other people too'.
When it was part of your job to brief President Obama, anything interesting you informed him about?
One of the things I remember briefing the president on was Diwali. He was the first US president to celebrate Diwali in person at the White House. And that was his choice. He'd celebrated it before and he has friends who celebrated it from the time he was a kid, so none of it was news to him. But it was interesting because he wanted to make sure there was a cross-section of the community there. Not just wealthy Indian doctors and CEOs, but people who work with battered-women shelters, and the taxi workers' alliance and folks like that also. So, having a chance to sit down with him after we've put the invite list together and share who's there and what the ceremony would be like, was really cool. And he knew most of it already.
Obama's 'senorita' line in Delhi where did that come from? Whose idea was it?
We may have talked about it a little bit (winks)!
Was that your idea?
We mayyy have talked about it a bit.
So it was your idea?
It was a group effort. It was a group effort!
Yeah it was your idea...
Well no, I think one of the things we wanted to do was... film is such a huge, iconic part of Indian culture, and the president is a huge arts and culture fan. And he's a huge movie buff. Really, if you ask him a whole bunch of different things, from art films to dumb comedies to action movies, he watches a lot of them. So I think he was looking for that connection. Particularly as that event was a people event. He wanted something that was authentic and would show a love for the arts, and that people-to-people diplomacy ... so I would not say it was my idea, it was the president's idea!
Your 'Main hoon Don (ald Trump)' dubsmash with Trump's face on yours, saying 'Don ka intezaar toh gyarah mulkon ki police kar rahi hai'... why?!
I just (laughs)... I don't know! I saw that it was on dubsmash and I was like, this seems like the most ridiculous thing to be able to do. And that's when I still thought it was funny. Now the Trump rhetoric is getting a little scary.
You've been called the most famous Indian-American actor in the world at one point. The last few years have seen pretty major strides for so many actors of Indian descent - Aziz Ansari, Dev Patel... Do you have any favourites?
I think they're all great. This is what I love about the community there... that it's always existed. I mean, there are tons of very, very talented actors of Indian-American descent who do regional theatre, who are writers, who do TV here and there. So there's really no shortage of talent. And I love that there are so many actors who're having opportunities now that weren't there before. If you just look at Mindy Kaling, and the show that she's created, it's phenomenal, right? It was on the big network before, now it's on a digital platform. I think that also says a lot about how much the industry is changing. Obviously, Aziz is just crushing it. It's amazing, I love Master Of None. Two episodes are my favourites - the one about his parents, and then one about auditions and what it's like being an Indian-American actor. It's really part of great TV, period. It's really well done. And then even the big networks I'm doing a show for ABC this fall called Designated Survivor, and they've got quite a bit of diversity on their network as a whole. And Quantico is on ABC, so they've also got Priyanka on. (She's great, she's phenomenal.) So, I think just in the last ten years, the way that American TV has changed, it's much more inclusive. I think it's because audiences want the types of stories and characters that they haven't observed or seen before.
How did the auditions episode resonate with you, given your own experiences with bad auditions, where you've been told to fake an Indian accent or a south Indian accent?
What I like about those episodes on Master Of None, particularly the parents episode, is when I hear people talking about it, they seem to talk about it in a similar way to The Namesake. Which is to say, you have a race-cultural specificity if you're south Indian, or a Bengali, whether it's Master Of None or The Namesake. So there is an authentic cultural specificity, but most audiences identify with it more universally. So you don't have to be of that background, you don't even have to be Indian-American to enjoy both of those. And that's what's really remarkable, that they're both only-American stories. A lot of people can relate to them, whether they have recent immigrants in their family or not. And as far as his interpretation of what it's like going out on auditions it's pretty accurate. Yeah, I don't know what to say, I'm certainly not gonna defend a casting director who behaves that way. You encounter that very, very regularly, unfortunately. But like I said, it's changed a lot in the last ten years and I'm hoping it continues to change.
People ask in all seriousness if I am related to Narendra Modi or Sean Penn-Kal Penn
7:53 AM
Posted by Fenil Seta
Actor Kal Penn talks about dropping his real name, his love for Indian-Chinese food and steering clear of stereotypes on screen
Sharmila Ganesan (THE TIMES OF INDIA; December 7, 2014)
Kal Penn wants a Coke. On
second thought, he would also like some black coffee. “I need to wake
up,“ says the actor, whose eyes are bloodshot, blinks exaggerated and
cherubic face - that standard Hollywood face of every 'American Born
Confused Desi' till a decade ago - a bit washed out.
The 37-year-old, tricked out in hip-hop denims, a carefully-dishevelled formal shirt and loose tie, looks like a college kid nursing a bad hangover. A bit like Kumar, his stoner character from the comedy film series Harold & Kumar. Within 15 minutes Penn, who is India, has to rush for the premiere of his latest film, 'Bhopal: A Prayer for Rain', a serious fictional drama based on the world's worst industrial disaster. Thankfully, Penn's timing is still intact. “That is a very good question,“ he says, raising his eyebrows when asked if this movie was the first to give him a moustache. “It was. I wish it was real.“
Never before, not even when he played a terrorist on the TV series '24', has Penn sported even a hint of facial hair onscreen. But then Motwani - Penn's clownish journalist character in the film set in the '80s - drove the American desi to many firsts. The otherwise trendy Penn wore Jitendra-style white trousers, rode a Luna bike with no batteries (a technical glitch that a local paper mistook for bad driving) and, above all delivered serious lines in the dialect of an alien language, Hindi. “It isn't a good thing when you are acting in a tragedy and the crew members laugh after you deliver a line,“ says Penn, a Gujarati who had to unlearn phonetics, and conquer the differences between syllables such as 'Ba' and 'Bha' to play Motwani.
It is uncanny how many things about Penn, whose real name is Kalpen Modi, seem to be made up of two halves. There's the smart-casual attire, the broken name, a result of a wild night with friends where other screen name suggestions included Kal Pacino (“It's funny - sometimes people ask in all seriousness if I am related to Narendra Modi or Sean Penn.“) and then, of course, the undeniable Indian American identity. “I never felt torn though,“ says Penn, despite having what he calls “the classic ABCD upbringing“ in New Jersey's Montclair. “Every summer was spent in India with cousins,“ says Penn, who grew up ingesting, along with 'shaak', stories of his grandparents marching with Gandhi during the Independence struggle. “The family value was always if you believe in something you should do it.“
This is perhaps why, while the
press was shocked by his decision to quit the hit TV show House to join
the Obama administration as an associate director in the White House
Office of Public Engagement, “at home it wasn't unexpected,“ he says.
After all, many from the private sector were taking sabbaticals to join
the White House. “It's just that my private sector career was in the
public eye,“ says The Namesake actor. “Also I was helping with arts and
outreach. Not nuclear weapons,“ he says. The only trouble, he admits,
was telling his first generation American parents, an engineer father and
perfume evaluator mother, that he wants to become an actor. “In 1965,
there was a shortage of engineers and doctors. So Indians knew that that
was the path to
stability,“ says Penn.
He is as cool as his character, Motwani, is not. “I don't believe in cultural ambassadorship,“ says Penn, whose characters Dr Lawrence Kutner in House and even Kumar, while peppered with ethnic references, were never shaped by them. Citing actors Mindy Kaling and Aziz Ansari as examples of how casting in Hollywood is slowly growing colour-blind, Penn believes stereotyping still happens. “There is no dearth of good actors but the roles are limited,“ he says. “Earlier on, I too had to accept my share of kachra jobs while working my way up.“
Talking to Penn feels like catching up with an NRI cousin. He can hold conversations on everything from Hindi films and Indian Chinese food. He watches Bollywood on Netflix and calls Bhoothnath Returns “aaawesooome“. During the making of his latest film which is shot Bhopal in Hyderabad, he confesses having a 'Harold And Kumar' moment when the crew went hunting for Indian Chinese food. “There were no Harold and Kumar mishaps though,“ clarifies Penn, reminding you instinctively of the scene from the Guantanamo Bay film where a woman mistakes Kumar for a terrorist as he attempts to smoke marijuana and things get worse when someone mistakes the word 'bong' for 'bomb'. Does he know what a 'bong' stands for in India, though? “No.“ A Bengali. “Oh, of course. That's so good. We should put that in the next movie.“
The 37-year-old, tricked out in hip-hop denims, a carefully-dishevelled formal shirt and loose tie, looks like a college kid nursing a bad hangover. A bit like Kumar, his stoner character from the comedy film series Harold & Kumar. Within 15 minutes Penn, who is India, has to rush for the premiere of his latest film, 'Bhopal: A Prayer for Rain', a serious fictional drama based on the world's worst industrial disaster. Thankfully, Penn's timing is still intact. “That is a very good question,“ he says, raising his eyebrows when asked if this movie was the first to give him a moustache. “It was. I wish it was real.“
Never before, not even when he played a terrorist on the TV series '24', has Penn sported even a hint of facial hair onscreen. But then Motwani - Penn's clownish journalist character in the film set in the '80s - drove the American desi to many firsts. The otherwise trendy Penn wore Jitendra-style white trousers, rode a Luna bike with no batteries (a technical glitch that a local paper mistook for bad driving) and, above all delivered serious lines in the dialect of an alien language, Hindi. “It isn't a good thing when you are acting in a tragedy and the crew members laugh after you deliver a line,“ says Penn, a Gujarati who had to unlearn phonetics, and conquer the differences between syllables such as 'Ba' and 'Bha' to play Motwani.
It is uncanny how many things about Penn, whose real name is Kalpen Modi, seem to be made up of two halves. There's the smart-casual attire, the broken name, a result of a wild night with friends where other screen name suggestions included Kal Pacino (“It's funny - sometimes people ask in all seriousness if I am related to Narendra Modi or Sean Penn.“) and then, of course, the undeniable Indian American identity. “I never felt torn though,“ says Penn, despite having what he calls “the classic ABCD upbringing“ in New Jersey's Montclair. “Every summer was spent in India with cousins,“ says Penn, who grew up ingesting, along with 'shaak', stories of his grandparents marching with Gandhi during the Independence struggle. “The family value was always if you believe in something you should do it.“
He is as cool as his character, Motwani, is not. “I don't believe in cultural ambassadorship,“ says Penn, whose characters Dr Lawrence Kutner in House and even Kumar, while peppered with ethnic references, were never shaped by them. Citing actors Mindy Kaling and Aziz Ansari as examples of how casting in Hollywood is slowly growing colour-blind, Penn believes stereotyping still happens. “There is no dearth of good actors but the roles are limited,“ he says. “Earlier on, I too had to accept my share of kachra jobs while working my way up.“
Talking to Penn feels like catching up with an NRI cousin. He can hold conversations on everything from Hindi films and Indian Chinese food. He watches Bollywood on Netflix and calls Bhoothnath Returns “aaawesooome“. During the making of his latest film which is shot Bhopal in Hyderabad, he confesses having a 'Harold And Kumar' moment when the crew went hunting for Indian Chinese food. “There were no Harold and Kumar mishaps though,“ clarifies Penn, reminding you instinctively of the scene from the Guantanamo Bay film where a woman mistakes Kumar for a terrorist as he attempts to smoke marijuana and things get worse when someone mistakes the word 'bong' for 'bomb'. Does he know what a 'bong' stands for in India, though? “No.“ A Bengali. “Oh, of course. That's so good. We should put that in the next movie.“
I speak Gujarati, but my Hindi is terrible-Kal Penn
8:34 AM
Posted by Fenil Seta
Kal Penn mulls on language bridges, Indian connections, admiration for Indian actors and films, et al...
Bryan Durham (DNA; October 26, 2014)
Kal Penn (or Kalpen Modi, as he’s otherwise known) has a familiar, yet international face. You’ve seen the actor in stoner comedies like the Harold and Kumar series or The Rise Of Taj, in TV shows as varied as 24, How I Met Your Mother and House. He has also been one of the most public young faces in both terms of the Barack Obama administration. We had a sitdown with the actor recently to talk shop, home and hearth and more...
You’ve been to India before (for The Namesake). What’s changed?
I think the big difference is that The Namesake was shot mostly in the States. So, we shot two weeks in Kolkata, two days in Agra whereas my latest film Bhopal: A Prayer For Rain was a fully Indian production shot here (in Hyderabad and Mumbai). I think both were independent films, but this was made more on a shoestring budget. So, it was a huge labour of love and the cast this time around was much more international. In the case of The Namesake, I was the only American actor and then, there’s Irrfan Khan and Tabu, obviously. In the case of Bhopal, you had me, Martin Sheen and Mischa Barton and the rest of the Indian cast. It was actually really cool to go from one to the other because in that amount of time, it seems a lot more filmmakers kept changing the dynamic in India of what Indians think like. It’s obviously exciting to talk to some of these guys from film schools who are trying out new things. It was a really neat progression to observe over that period of time...
Do you have family here in Mumbai?
I do. I have family, here in Mumbai, in Ahmedabad, in Vadodara. So, it’s not the first time I’ve come here, I usually end up coming about once a year.
You share our PM’s last name. Think of changing back to Kalpen Modi?
It’s funny, you know, when any actor uses a screen name, and once you start working, you kind of have to stick to the screen name, but I remember when we shot The Namesake and it premiered, I remember an interesting parallel - Gogol and Nikhil are the two names of the lead character in The Namesake. I said, ‘What if we had Gogol Ganguly played by Kalpen Modi and Nikhil Ganguly played by Kal Penn?’ So if you see the credits, there’s kind of a dual credit. That was kind of fun. (Shrugs)
You’re from New Jersey. Your comments on Jersey Shore.
Oh God! (Shocked) Are they airing that here? The TV show Jersey Shore is not New Jersey. But I certainly don’t take it particularly seriously. The real New Jersey is very different (laughs) than the Jersey Shore.
Do you speak Gujarati?
Yes. Gujarati and English obviously. Not Hindi, my Hindi is terrible. It’s kinda attrocious, but it was kind of a learning curve with this movie.
Were you caught unawares when you found out you had to speak Hindi in Bhopal?
When I got the script for Bhopal; A Prayer, it was in English. The meetings we had were in English and then we flew in to Hyderabad from LA, and in the first rehearsal when I read the scene, I read it in English and our director Ravi Kumar looks over to his assistant, and they look at me and Ravi goes (imitates the director), ‘Achha, abhi Hindi mein!’ I was like what do you mean ‘Abhi Hindi mein?’ And he’s like, ‘You know you’re playing an Indian journalist in Bhopal in 1984. Of course, you’re speaking in Hindi! You know that, right?’ I said, ‘I did NOT know that. I thought I was speaking in English.’ He said, why would you think that? I go, ‘Ravi, you sent me a script in English, including my lines. He said, ‘In India, we just do that here, everything’s in English. We assume you’ll translate that into Hindi.” I was like what do we do now? We can’t make him Gujarati, he’s Bhopali!’ So We hired a language coach and a dialect coach and so, I had like a crash course in how to speak conversational Hindi as much as how to really get the lines across and get in authentic speaking-wise. I had done the research on the character itself, but obviously, the language of choice was something to work on... (trails)... and of course, the rest of the Hindi speaking cast was helpful in that and I think my point is speaking Gujarati was a helpful bridge to learning lines in Hindi as opposed to not having any frame of reference, right
The dialect of Hindi spoken in Bhopal is slightly different. Did you go for authenticity or accessibility?
It was my primary concern was ‘For God’s sake, don’t speak Hindi with an American accent. Let me try to cross this bridge first’. And then, after that, of course the particular dialects. So we had a dialect coach. And writer-director Ravi Kumar is from MP and had done a lot of research. He lives in the UK now but he has a very good ear for it too. So to answer that question, I’d have to read Twitter after the movie comes out and see what people say. From the trailer, I’ve got positive comments, which is flattering.
Going by the trailer, most of your scenes are with Mischa Barton. What was the most striking thing about her?
She was incredible to work with. A lot of foreign audiences know her best from The OC and this is very different role from The OC. I really enjoyed getting to know her and a sense of why do a movie like this.
Mischa said somewhere she did the film for moral reasons. What are your reasons for doing the film?
Varied. One of the big reasons was seeing Ravi’s passion for telling the story. I remember the incident vaguely as a kid and studying about it in college, but any time you do a story based on real events that’s not a documentary, I think at least in my case, you want to make sure that whoever wrote it wants to do justice to the story. Were clearly a fictionalised adaptation. I don’t think it’s a political film nor does it have a political angle. When I first heard about the movie I was apprehensive and kind of thought is this going to be a movie that takes a biased stand or is it going to be able to tell this tragic story by painting the complex picture that led to this. Talking to Ravi it was very clear he wanted to talk about that complexity so long story short, I felt like the complexities of tragedy are very rarely discussed.It speaks volumes that Ravi took the time to come up with the complexities in real life. Playing a complex character like Motwani is not something I would have got a chance to do normally. Ravi said he wanted to hire an actor who was funny and deeply serious at the same time, which was flattering.
Lawrence Kutner, Kumar Patel, Gogol, Taj, Kevin, Ahmed or Motwani, which character is the closest and furthest from you?
Furthest from Kumar from Harold And Kumar which is why I love playing him so much. He’s like way cooler than I am than I’ll ever be. So the fact that he’s so different and bizarre and cool, makes it lot of fun to play that character. Closest I would say is probably Kutner actually because his backstory was because he liked sports and so got into sports medicine, then took a leave from sports medicine to apply for this fellowship with Dr House and so there are some parallels there about taking dual passions multiple passions than taking a break moving from one thing to another, so that was kinda cool.
Think we get stereotyped on screen in Hollywood and international television?
Yeah I feel like Hollywood is always behind the curve on representation, whether its representation of a particular ethnic group or gender group or whatever it is. it always seems like you know.. they’re very slow to change. Now I will say I also think that even though Hollywood is slow to change, if you look at the last five years, there are a lot of incredible changes that we’ve seen in American film and television over five years. And I’d point to examples like The Mindy Project (Mindy Kaling’s show), It’s doing so well, She wrote it, produced it, in every episode, she plays the lead... it’s phenomenal. She’s like got her own show and it’s on a huge network because she has that kind of talent and because she does such a great job. And there are increasing examples like that. I do think, thankfully, that Hollywood’s moving in the right direction. (Empathically) Not as fast as we all would like but faster than it has in the past.
What would convince you to do a Bollywood film - song and dance and all?
That’s a good question. There are so many answers I could give you. (Exclaims as an afterthought) Cast Irrfan Khan! Also, I want to work with Tabu again also. I think it’s funny... if you had asked me that question ten years ago it would have been easier to pinpoint because 10 years ago, if somebody said Bollywood movie, you knew what you were getting into you knew -- three-hour movie with awesome songs and dances you’ll cry, you’ll laugh and its a movie you can watch with your parents. And its awesome. Now... it can mean that but not necessarily it can also mean something like Bombay Talkies with directors whove dones those types of movies in them flipped the scipt and done more independent stuff. In the last couple of months, I’ve seen Gunday, which is very different from D-Day, which is very different from The Lunchbox. And I could find something in each of those three movies that would make me say yes to work in some thing like this. Full disclosure, I’m not the best dancer. We've discussed already that my Hindi skills are lacking. So, those are like two big hurdles, but there are like so many people I’d like to work with .. anybody that’s shaken up that kind of dynamic. On the flipside, because I haven’t done a musical before, the concept of doing something challenging appeals to me. There are so many ppl I'd like to work with, like Irrfan again, I’d like to work with Zoya Akhtar, do a buddy comedy with Saqib Saleem, so many other actors who’ve done incredible work!
And actreses (apart from Tabu!)?
I really think Kajol is tremendous in everything I’ve seen her and I’m fascinated by how Priyanka Chopra’s had such an incredible way with her films and her Western music career; the way she’s managed her career to kind of as much as one can manage both worlds, really like take them both by storm, in completely different ways. That kind of professional persona seems awesome.
What about directors?
Lets see, the four from Bombay Talkies, Zoya (Akhtar) Karan (Johar), Anurag (Kashyap) Dibakar Bannerjee. It’s funny that those four did a collection together because that’s perfect but yeah, I would start with those four.
I'd work with Mira, Irrfan Khan and Tabu in a heartbeat-Kal Penn
7:45 AM
Posted by Fenil Seta
Kal Penn on his The Namesake director and Harold and Kumar's upcoming TV stint
Ankur Pathak (MUMBAI MIRROR; October 21, 2014)
Kalpen Suresh Modi, who
broke into Hollywood as Kal Penn with the Harold And Kumar series,
following up with films like The Namesake and Superman Returns, is in
the city. “I would have liked to spend more time in Mumbai but I'm
planning another trip soon. So much has changed,“ admits the Indian
origin American actor who will next be seen in Bhopal: A Prayer for
Rain, a film set against the backdrop of the Bhopal Gas Tragedy.

“The script was a compelling read and I immediately said yes. It gave me the chance to work with Hollywood icon Martin Sheen who plays Warren Anderson, the then CEO of Union Carbide,“ he says.
Despite having acted in several films and TV shows, including House, 24 and How I Met Your Mother, Penn admits that his most “emotionally-stirring“ experience as an actor was in Mira Nair's The Namesake. “I'd work with Mira, Irrfan (Khan) and Tabu in a heartbeat. I've been in touch with Mira and I hope something comes along in the near future,“ he says.
Kalpen who became Kal Penn because he was told a change in name would get him more work, insists that it's become easier for actors of Indian-origin to make it in Hollywood. “America is more open to diverse talent now. We get to play different characters as opposed to being reduced to a stereotype,“ says the actor who took a three year sabbatical to work for the Obama administration as the associate director of the White House's Public Administration office. “In America, it's common to take a sabbatical. It was a world completely removed from films, I have strong political beliefs,“ he reasons.
Now the focus is on the hit franchise Harold And Kumar, the stoner comedies he's been a part of with John Cho. “Harold And Kumar will return in an animated TV series early next year. Currently, I'm working on the voiceovers,“ he signs off.
“The script was a compelling read and I immediately said yes. It gave me the chance to work with Hollywood icon Martin Sheen who plays Warren Anderson, the then CEO of Union Carbide,“ he says.
Despite having acted in several films and TV shows, including House, 24 and How I Met Your Mother, Penn admits that his most “emotionally-stirring“ experience as an actor was in Mira Nair's The Namesake. “I'd work with Mira, Irrfan (Khan) and Tabu in a heartbeat. I've been in touch with Mira and I hope something comes along in the near future,“ he says.
Kalpen who became Kal Penn because he was told a change in name would get him more work, insists that it's become easier for actors of Indian-origin to make it in Hollywood. “America is more open to diverse talent now. We get to play different characters as opposed to being reduced to a stereotype,“ says the actor who took a three year sabbatical to work for the Obama administration as the associate director of the White House's Public Administration office. “In America, it's common to take a sabbatical. It was a world completely removed from films, I have strong political beliefs,“ he reasons.
Now the focus is on the hit franchise Harold And Kumar, the stoner comedies he's been a part of with John Cho. “Harold And Kumar will return in an animated TV series early next year. Currently, I'm working on the voiceovers,“ he signs off.
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)
